I ask friend Frank Kummerer, to look over my 64 and give me what he thinks of it. Frank, had his car judge and won plus judge other midyears at Bloomington Gold Show in his time. (Hell Frank's mid-name was 'Midyear'). He said,"It's nice but it would take a lot of time and money to get GOLD. There was lot of originality and the history that I did helps a lot in it value. Now maybe value 30-32k but add say 15-25k work could bring it up to mid to upper 50's. As long as you have fun with it. Do you want to driver it or work on it. He'll help me like he did with so many others get the 'GOLD' if that is what I wanted."

I said,"I wasn't looking to make money but to have fun. I didn't what put that much money and work to get so little back." So I drive it and have fun. Because I talk with other friends that put money in there 30K cars and wasn't having fun with them. Didn't want to drive them because they put too much money in them. I didn't want a trailer queen. I wasn't going to pay to get it judge other then the $10-$20 registerion fee for the wash-n-shine I cruise to.

The end of 2003 I wasn't having fun with it so I sold it.

We'll start with what Don, install in the two years he had car. clutch plate, pressure plate, throw-out bearing, pilot bearing, clutch fork, machine flywheel, trans. bearings with seals, shifter linkage assy., plugs, plug wires (dated set), rebuilt dist., set valves, idler pulley, water pump/idler belt, alternator belt, water pump hoses, heater hoses, right rear wheel bearing assy, drive shaft 'U' joints, carburator re-buid kit, battery disconnect switch and new wire looms in engine compartment. Don, had 3 vette he was working on plus a full time job.

The 1st year, I detail engine compartment, clean valve covers add decals and recoated exaust manifolds. Install knock-off lug nuts Don had from the guy he got the car but didn't have time to do. Install seat belts, bracket for seat belt buckles on console and washer pump noz. repair kit that Don gave me. I had the genuine leather seat covers install that Don gave me. I clean and repaint seat tracks, wheel wells, install headlight motor lift side and trip odometer knob.

The next year, I had speed-o-head replace (odometer didn't work, Don didn't have time get fix) also had wiring under the dash re-taping at sometime.

In 1999, I had master cyl.,right/frt. wheel cyl., hose replace, rear racing brake shoes (after market) replace with reg. shoes and I install new battery.
Don, sold me new soft top about 3 year after get form him, he got in garage sold for $50, It wasn't a date top but new. The one on car a had rust stain on it. I didn't have time to have it install. I never show it with top up. (The old master cyl. and top went with car when I sold it. Bruce said,"He was going to have top install 1st thing.")

The new owner, Sam (#12) of my 64 call and told me the car is going to be feature NCRS magazine (Summer 2007). There was a lot of holes in the magazine article. I did the history on is car. I like to clear up, that Terrell R. Young wasn't fatally shot down in VietNam. He died in a Navy fighter at Cherry Point, North Carolina as fare as I know that not in Vietnam. I got all but the 1st owner, and there was no, Bob Sindelar, that own is car. Like I told, Bruce, then I sold it to him that the mileage is not right I had to speed-o-head replace the 2nd year I own it. Because the odometer didn't work on it, stop just over 54k and one of the title had over 60k on it after the 5th owner. Someone try to turn it back. My guess it had well over 70k on it then I sold it. I was up front with is info just like Don was with me when I bought. It's still a nice car and in good hand I think. I just like to get things right. I know that he had all history work I did he said it came with car. I read what he did to car in this article. I know the history part of article was wrong.

I cann't see how this NCRS article could add to the value of this car it not ture. Someone made it up. Sad part of it they had the ture from my history work. All they had to do was use it.

I got word it was awarded NCRS Top Flight in 2007, scoring 95.5% for overall originality!??? Getting Top Flight or even Bloomington 'GOLD' don't add value to car.
It's what you did to the car to get them that add value. I other words you cann't judge in value you have to put in value. It's list for sale $79,990.00 at Corvette Mike's. I think the value of this car is the upper 50's to lower 60's that about all.

I got this email from Sam 08/02/08 He ask, If I was going to post it. I will.

"That car was all chopped up mix with a ton of incorrect parts and bad parts. No owner along the line took the time to correct a dam thing except me and my friend Dave, So be happy that the car is now correct and is a TOP Flight CAR! Wrong carpet, wrong carburetor, wrong mirror, hoses, belts, tires, expansion cap, seat covers, wiring, wiper blades, timing & vales out of wack, Brakes bad, over spray all over the place, door panels incorrect with dark blue carpet, seats out out line, steering out of line, mileage speedometer not working, wrong fuel pump, bad fuel filter, exterior paint all scratch up, back bumper missing support bracket, muffler holes and exhaust pipes all rusted out, crappy tires, K.O. wheel have not been professional cleaned in years, the entire dash section dirty with all the chrome pitted and badly need polishing and cleaning, radio speaker shield missing screws, wiring under the dash hanging all over the place and in need of re-taping, incorrect head lights, incorrect oil canister, incorrect oil plug screw. Engine block dirty, incorrect nut and screws through the engine compartment, the wrong screws under the rocker panels, incorrect seat belts bolts, incorrect rear view mirror glass, sold off or lost the hard top, The car ran like crap when I bought it."

Sam, sounded mad at me and a Frank, (I didn't post that part of email) I guessing he's the new owner? But I sold car as is and not to him. He bought 3 years after I sold it. It WASN'T a top flight car it was a driver. That's the way I sold it. I did the owner history on is car I know that was right up to 2003. The car ran great when I sold it and mileage speedometer work. Trim Code 491BE that's Silver / Dk. Blue off the Body Number Plate that on the car. I know it need a lot of work, a complete frame-off restoration to get "GOLD". Before I sold it Bruce, had car trailer over to Vetteran Automotive Inc. to have them go over at his expense. They said, It was a good driver, ran good and price was right. So that's way he bought it. All I'm try to do is keep up the history now. GM did put Silver carpet (which was Lt. Gray) in for one year only that was 1966. In 1967 they drop Silver interior option. Like I said before, K.O. are not stock there after market. The hard top was long gone when I got it. I was looking for one at one time. The car was 33 years old and all a parts didn't make it when I got it. SORRY, I didn't do more, but I had fun with when I had it. Now I golf and I'm not any good at that also.

I email Sam with:

Sorry, you read something in to what I post on my webpage. Did you read all of it, or just what you want to see? I didn't go in to what you did (that up to you to put on your webpage, but did I post your email. I put what I get on the car on my page to update history. I have no control of car after I sold it 2003. I know you did lots of work to the 64.

8-03-08 Sam reply with:

" Sorry I got so mad yesterday, but I only gave the drive line bits and pieces of history, they made up and wrote the story the way they wanted to. I told them Bob Sindalar went down to NC to purchase the car with a someone, one the the early owners. He knew some of the history on it. He is the one who pulled the drums to find the sintered Metallic brakes. I would never had sold it, but I ran across a 65 fuelie, silver, silver roadster. So I own that car now. Who knows if someone else bought that car in stead of me, It could be parts right now! As of now it is very closet to being correct as it left the factory back in 65."

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Got email (08-27-08) from a Scott Weber stateing:

He the grandson of a Navy pilot station in Pensacola, Florida back in mid 60's. His late grandfather told him that he had a new Blue 64 Corvette roadster, with silver and dark blue interior back then. That he sold it in 1966 to another Navy pilot. My mother told me he sold the hardtop for it about two years after return home, the man he sold car to never came to pick it up. Granadpa Cooper was from Houston, Texas back then. Grandpa said, "He didn't know way he order it with a hardtop he never use it". Here a copy only picture of car. Maybe it's the the same car.

Boy the time line sure is right could be the same car. But it's all word of mouth. You can't get info from DMV like I did back in 1997-98 since 9/11 happen. How many 'Daytona Blue with silver/dk. blue interior' where in Pensacola at that time? Scott, it's nice to see what it look like back then.

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September 6, 2008

I met-up with two men from Corvette Mike's Midwest at the Berwyn RT66 Car Show, talk about my 64. One of them said "That he thinks it want over sea". He said "That he email me with more info about car if he could. But he know that one of Daytona Blue midyear went over sea." He is pretty sure it was the one I had. I never got that email

Hell, they getting our jobs they mite as well get our cars. I like to think someday I'll get something on is car from wherever over sea it when, but that will be a long shot. Boy-o-boy you never know when and where you'll find out about some things. Sometime be at right place at right time helps..

I got this email.
Could this be the car that you sold:
http://www.finn.no/finn/car/used/object?finnkode=33997368
There was a guy on the Norwegian Corvette Club forum who found the car and your internet page. He complained about the car`s asking price of 110000 USD or so. I opened those links and read what you had written and saw that you didn`t know where your car went. I hope I helped you tie up a few loose ends.
Jan Erik Thomsen
Owner of a somewhat stock 1980 L82

Thanks of info Jan, I was able to check VIN# with picture off the web site you send that had VIN.# on them,they match. That is the car I own and did history on.